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Allied
Health Council
Meeting Minutes
September 4, 2002 - Office of the President
9:30AM - 12:30PM
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Thomas J. Bacon, Dr.P.H., Director,
NC AHEC Program |
Karen Luken, Allied Health Professional
Representative |
| Alan Brown, NC AHEC Program |
Lee McLean, Chair, UNC Dept. of Allied Health Sciences |
| Andrea Catenaro, Assistant to Executive Director |
Brenda Mitchell, UNC Dept. of Allied Health Sciences |
| Carolyn Cusic, NC Association for Home Care &
Hospice |
Marge Ottofy, Allied Health Professional Representative |
| Susan Dyson, Sheps Center |
Patricia Porter, NC Dept. of Health and Human Services |
| Algie Gatewood, NC State Education Assistance Authority |
Robert Weaver, Charlotte AHEC |
| Kathy Heilig, NC Hospital Association |
Vickie Whitaker, NC Dept. of Health and Human Services |
| Elizabeth Isler, NC Community College System |
David Wysocki, NC Occupational Theraphy Association |
| Rees Jenkins, Former Council Chair |
David Yoder, Council Executive Director |
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| Guests |
| Debbie Durham, Forsyth Tech |
David Lewis, NC Academy of Physican Assistants |
| Natalie Edwards, Eastern AHEC |
Debbie Ramey, Eastern AHEC |
| Larry Freeman |
Nancy Simpson, Northwest AHEC |
| Libby Haile, Greensboro AHEC |
Carolyn Taylor, CLMA Blue Ridge Chapter |
| Shannon Harris, UNC OT Student |
Martha Taylor, NC Dental Hygiene Association President-Elect |
| Linda Horton, NC Hospital Association |
Terita Williams, UNC Dept. of Allied Health Sciences |
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| I.
Welcome and Introductions |
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- Andrea Catenaro, Assistant to the Executive Director
- Guests were introduced (see above)
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| II.
Approval of May 1, 2002 Minutes |
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Corrections:
- Section IX: Kathy Heilig did presentation of American
Hospital Association
- Section VII: Dr. Benson & Dr. Isler did presentation
– State Board of Community Colleges, UNC’s BOG, and the
Department of Public Instruction all participated
- May 1’s minutes approved as amended
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| III.
Comments: Alan Mabe, UNC VP for Academic Planning |
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- July 11 Allied Health Meeting with Board of Governors
- Dr. Bacon pointed out that this meeting marked the
first time that the BOG focused on allied health issues
since the early 1990’s.
- Dr. Mabe felt that 7/11’s meeting with the BOG went
well, and that healthcare issues are now on every agenda
of the BOG.
- In Dentistry, East Carolina is developing more residencies
for dentists by expanding facilities to hold 20-25 residents,
and increasing dentistry faculty. UNC Chapel Hill wants
to increase enrollment by 6-25, and is looking at clinical
sites in the west and east.
- In Pharmacy, there is a new joint program between UNC
Chapel Hill and Elizabeth City State University.
- The BOG set a goal to have 50% of medical student residents
to be in primary care. This was achieved, but now there
is a shortage of specialists.
- In Allied Health: AHEC is proposing raising funds to
upgrade ill-equipped clinical sites in rural areas.
- The Duke Endowment funds workforce studies, but they
get out-of-date quickly. There are so many areas of allied
health, that one area could be overlooked if we’re not
attentive. AHEC has submitted a request in the biennial
budget to fund an ongoing workforce survey of all disciplines
to assist with staying current with the allied health
workforce.
- In Nursing: Reports have suggested that shortages arise
in the workplace; AHEC proposes to focus on the workplace
to make it more attractive and to retain staff members.
There are plenty of registered nurses, but shortages are
still reported across the state in various regions where
there are small rural hospitals.
- Dr. Isler asked how the BOG was addressing the shortage
of dentists in rural areas.
- Dr. Mabe: Rotating residencies is a possible solution
- Increase number of residents at UNC, but have them
do residencies in rural areas – 25 residents to spread
around will have an impact in those areas.
- Dr. Bacon: UNC plans to increase dental school
enrollment. Rotations in rural communities were never
required in the past, but were elective. The current
plan is to develop additional training sites in rural
areas in which to place students.
- Medicaid reimbursement is also an issue. Forty-three
counties in NC have dentists that do not accept Medicaid.
Some of these counties are clustered together so that
some people have to travel 75-80 miles to see a Medicaid-accepting
dentist. Others simply do without dental care. Many
of these counties are in the east and northwest.
- Dr. Mabe said that currently there are 79 students
enrolled in UNC Dentistry. UNC wants to increase that
number to 105.
- Dr. Bacon touched on the idea of expanded programs
in dental hygiene, which are not available in NC.
Such programs could have a great impact in underserved
areas. The role of Dr. Mabe’s office is to put together
better data to assist in the development process.
- Dr. Bacon also talked about faculty vacancies in
allied health. It is difficult to mobilize programs
with low faculty numbers. The council could look into
ways to stimulate faculty growth. Debbie Durham mentioned
that current faculty members Radiologic Technology
are aging out and will reach retirement age in 3-5
years.
- Dr. Mabe explained that with small allied health
programs, some courses are difficult to offer because
of low enrollment. He suggested the possibility of
a consortium, which would move courses online, and
students from allied health programs in numerous colleges
across the state could enroll for a unified fee. Dr.
McLean said this had been done with SLP among 5 campuses
with success.
- Dr. Bacon requested that Dr. Isler give a presentation
on “Current and future plans for health programs in
the Community College System” at the November 6 meeting.
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| IV.
Council Updates |
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Announcements:
- Dr. Isler has been appointed to the Executive Committee
as Member-at-Large.
- Dr. Benson has left her VP position at UNC, and is now
Dean of the School of Education at Winston-Salem State. No
replacement for her position has been reported as of yet.
It was requested that President Broad appoint a replacement.
- Next meeting: November 6, 2002.
November 3-9 is National Allied Health Professions Week
- Dr. Porter will work with Dr. Yoder to get a Proclamation
recognizing Allied Health Week from Governor Easley.
- The Council’s next meeting is during the week of Allied
Health Professions Week; we will try to get someone to
speak at the meeting related to that topic.
- Dr. Yoder requested that everyone, within their associations,
tries to get media recognition during that week.
Presentation of Council Service Certificates:
- Dr. Donna Benson
- Dr. Darlene Sekerak
- Ms. Carolyn Taylor
- Ms. Debbie Durham
Discussion & Action:
- Dr. Yoder’s presentation (PowerPoint handout): While discussing
the future resources for funding with lobbyists, the recommendation
was made by them that the Council should establish an advisory
board. The Council membership would remain as is; the advisory
board would have the role of “marketing the council” and would
representatives from the General Assembly, higher education
at the level of the BOG, State Superintendent of Schools,
Community College Governing Board, business, advocates, Council
representatives (Dr. Bacon, Member-at-Large, Executive Director),
and AHEC representative, and others as recommended.
- The Executive Committee had a positive reaction to this
idea, and is seeking the Council’s reaction.
- Funds from our grant expire in 3 years; an advisory
board could hopefully help get permanent funding for
the on going business of the Council.
- Comments/Suggestions
- Several members requested clarification on roles
of members on both the Council and the Advisory Board.
There was concern over duplicating board and Council
members roles.
- Suggestions for board members included educational
reps that are on the administrative level rather than
professional who could advise on seeking financial
support, media representatives, and decision-makers.
Potential educational representatives include Martin
Lancaster for community colleges, a Board of Governors
member with knowledge of health issues for UNC (e.g.
Souza, Wilson), and someone from the School of Public
Health.
- A concern was raised over ensuring that the Advisory
Board acts in the best interest of the Council. When
Board members are appointed, the mission and goals
of the Council will be made clear. The Board will
exist solely for the benefit of the Council; they
will not be an independent body. Their purpose is
to advise and guide the Council somewhat in the role
of marketing the Council to the constituencies from
which they come.
- A consensus was reached that an Advisory Board
would be helpful. The Council must determine the roles
of the Board, which would help in determining who
to appoint.
- It was recommended that Dr. Yoder bring to the
Council in writing a rationale for the constitution
and roles of an Advisory Board for further discussion
at the November meeting.
- Rx: Name change from Council for Allied Health in NC to
Center for Allied Health Professions (for later decision)
Power Point presentation and DRAFT of a Center’s role was
distributed for discussion.
- Dr. Yoder discussed how lobbyists also recommended a
name change. A Center is seen as a stable entity, like
an institute. A council is seen as a collection of people.
A decision will not be made immediately; instead the Council
is to think about pros and cons of a possible change.
Carolyn Taylor suggested that “NC” remain part of the
name.
- Dr. McLean thought that the name being reminiscent
of NC Center for Nursing could have negative connotations.
Dr. Bacon agreed that this could be an important issue
when seeking legislative support. Dr. McLean suggested
considering other words like “association” and “institute.”
Dropping “Professions” from the title would shorten it
and would encompass allied health services as well.
- Karen Luken said that “council” implies more of a voluntary
effort; Center could be perceived more as “creating something.”
- Dr. Bacon explained that lobbyists say “Center” sounds
more permanent, and this would be helpful in getting permanent
funding. We need an entity to get direct funding, instead
of getting funding through AHEC, which subcontracts to
the Department of Allied Health Sciences and the Sheps
Center.
- Becoming a “center” would lead us to apply for 501
C3 status, and future independence.
Dr. Isler suggested that UNC be removed from point 5 on
the draft handout so that all educational institutions
are included.
- Council members are to give the name change some thought,
and bring ideas to November’s meeting, where a decision
may be made. Also send feedback to the Executive Committee
for discussion at their October meeting. Dr. Yoder will
write up a rationale for the change.
- Council becoming Coalition 2001 member
- Karen Luken provided background: Coalition 2001 is dedicated
to ensuring adequate resources to help people with disability/substance
abuse needs. Instead of groups concerned with health and
human services competing against one another, they work
together. Membership is open to groups with statewide
representation and concern for related issues. Each area
has sub coalitions, which focus on policy issues, budget
and legislation. The large coalition approaches the General
Assembly to get funding. There is a lot of discussion
on legislative action, and this helps to understand what
goes on in the legislature. This could be beneficial for
the Council as we look to the state level for funding.
The Council fits membership criteria. Limited membership
dues are $100/year. Involving the Council in this organization
would increase our exposure.
- Dr. Porter expressed concern over joining Coalition
2001. The Coalition 2001 may seek funding for issues in
which the Council has no interest Diverse and conflicting
policy issues could be problematic. She suggested not
joining now, but instead having the Executive Director
attend meetings and report back to the Council on the
advisability of joining.
- Rees Jenkins thought the Council needed to take a risk,
as it is not well known. The exposure will help us in
the long run, and we can deal with conflicts as they arise.
- Dr. McLean disagreed with both Jenkins and Luken. She
foresaw that there might be philosophical conflicts with
some member organizations. Joining the Coalition could
confuse the message as to who the Council is. Proposed
having Dr. Yoder attend some Coalition meetings to learn
more about them.
- Dr. Bacon suggested writing some guidelines for how
to decide which coalitions to join or decline membership.
Proposed sending Dr. Yoder to Coalition meetings for 3-6
months and to present recommendation to Council.
- Rees Jenkins suggested inviting the coalition to do
a presentation at a future Council meeting.
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Reports |
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- Data Committee Report - Alan Brown &
Susan Dyson
- Mr. Brown reported that the Data Committee met several
times over the summer, and is about to embark on its 4th
workforce study. The committee has decided to stay its
course with the current workforce model through the Radiation
Science study, and then discuss the possibility of changing
the model. The RadSci representative is Frances Apple,
and the report will hopefully be done in March, 2003.
- Health Information Management (HIM) report update:
The final draft has been sent out to panel members for
final reviews and corrections. The release date is planned
for late September or early October.
- Ms. Dyson suggested doing more marketing to increase
awareness of the HIM report. There is a shortage of credentialed
and qualified people in HIM. The workforce is currently
not diverse, but the students in affiliated programs are.
Susan will bring feedback on the report to November’s
meeting.
- Mr. Brown expressed concern over previous reports,
and what has happened to them. A follow-up committee including
representatives from all previous workforce studies (Dr.
Sekerak, Dr. Mayo, Ms. Apple and Ms. Hunt) will meet on
9/9 to propose guidelines for future follow-ups.
- Dr. Bacon announced that Sheps Center has finished
a pharmacy workforce study; contact Susan Dyson, Alan
Brown or Dr. Bacon for a copy. The report illustrated
a shortage of people filling prescriptions as well as
an increase in demand for pharmacists. Ms. Dyson reported
that the report recommended long and short-term solutions.
Long-term solutions include opening new pharmacy schools
and programs. Short-term solutions are increasing utilization
of pharmacy technicians, and getting them to practice
in rural area, where demand is greatest.
- Dr. Bacon also pointed out that NC appears to be well
served by pharmacists, but many of them work in the pharmaceutical
industry and in research, not actually distributing prescriptions.
- NCHA Allied Health Data – Kathy Heilig
- Ms. Heilig did a PowerPoint presentation which showcased
a lot of information on vacancy rates in allied health
professions, among others, which will be published on
the website at a later date. This report is not yet ready
for public release.
- There was a 72% response rate to this Hospital based
workforce survey. It was sent directly to the Human Resources
departments of the hospitals but administrators were informed
to make sure HR filled them out. Mail and phone follow-ups
were also done. The response distribution among districts
and hospital sizes was diverse.
- Dr. Isler pointed out that the report showed higher
vacancy rates in areas with few or no college programs,
a demonstrated connection between hospitals and community
colleges. Dr. Bacon described a new consortium in Area
L, which has full enrollment. This should have an impact
on vacancy rates in that AHEC area.
- Dr. Yoder requested permission to put this information
on the Council website as soon as it can be made public
for the Council members and other interested persons to
study it more closely. Ms. Heilig will make it available
soon.
- State Budget Impact on AH & Assistive Technology
Consortium – Patricia Porter
- Website for General Assembly: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us.
The site has information on the current budget, membership,
elections, redistricting, and a real-time audio program
of the Appropriations Room, Finance Room, House and Senate.
- The effects of redistricting cannot be underestimated.
You may not be able to vote for the person you chose during
the last election for General Assembly. Use the website
to find out who your representative is and if they share
your interests; the Primary is 9/10.
- The budget: As of today, NC is $1.9B in debt. The General
Assembly must make big budget cuts if they don’t come
to an agreement on additional resources. Major issues
include the lottery, ending tax loopholes for big business,
half-cent sales tax, tobacco tax and the liquor/beer tax.
No one is likely to put forward proposals for more money
until after the primaries. Until a new budget is approved,
we will continue to use the old one.
- Bad news regarding current reductions proposal includes
reducing rates for long term care (House), reducing contracts
in long term care (Senate); cutting positions in community
colleges; cutting staff from psychiatric hospitals; ending
outreach programs at mental retardation facilities (mostly
AH positions); 3-5% rate reductions for personal care
services or reduction from 80 to 60 hrs/month; reducing
reimbursement for ambulatory care; $7.7M reduction in
case management; decrease of funds to office of minority
health in the Division of Public Health. The House and
Senate have not reached an agreement on these proposed
cuts, and there has been a lot of arguing regarding the
potential impact. These disagreements must be resolved.
- The reduction in tax loopholes, tobacco tax and the
half-cent sales tax are moving forward as the quickest.
There is no talk about increasing income tax for higher
brackets this term because they want money quickly. Latest
information indicates that a referendum for a lottery
may be included in the final budget bill.
- Dr. Bacon said that cuts will happen, but not as severely
as once thought, 8-10% likely.
NC Assistive Technology Consortium handout – information
on equipment lending program, survey information. Website:
http://www.pat.org.
Dr. Yoder pointed out that assistive technology is useful
for older people, as well as people with disabilities,
and is important in rural communities.
- Activity of Executive Director – David
Yoder
- The new Council brochure will be sent out to members
when it is completed.
- The Executive Committee has requested that the Exec.
Director write a set of Council Guidelines to assist us
with the ongoing business of the Council. These are in
process and Robert Thorpe, Carolyn Taylor, Pat Porter,
Rees Jenkins and Alan Brown have provided feedback. Following
discussion by the Executive Committee they will be posted
on the Council Web page for Council members to read and
study for discussion purposes at the November 6 meeting.
- National Allied Health Professions Week will occur
during our November meeting. We will post suggestions
to commemorate this week on the website.
- Handouts at the meeting include updated Presidents
List and Membership Roster, which can also be found on
the Council Web page. The Presidents groups have been
renumbered 1-6, to make them easier to identify and refer
to.
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Round Robin |
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- Kathy Heilig: NCHA is doing educational programs in disaster
training for top-level hospital management. Training takes
place over one week in September, made possible due to collaboration
with grants on public health.
- Vickie Whitaker: setting up regional labs at 3 sites which
will handle environmental samples and do educational work.
- NC Dental Society, Dental Hygiene Society, Community College
system collaborated on initiative regarding licensure, which
is supported by the Governor.
- David Lewis: Duke Medical Center has started its resident
program for Physician Assistants with class size of 6.
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| VII.
Other |
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Larry Freeman, Linda Horton and Nancy Simpson introduced.
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